Conversation with Ty Cobb.

Ty Cobb: The bosses seem coming down hard on the boys for trying to get a leg up.

SS: Mr. Cobb, it's illegal.

Ty Cobb: My ass is illegal.

SS: I hope so. But Mr. Cobb, we've read time and again about the distinctions between your time and now, and they don't always apply.

Ty Cobb: You think ballplayers are different now than we were? You think that?

SS: Yes, I do.

Ty Cobb: You may be right. But it don't come down to money, I tell you that. The number's bigger now, but it don't matter. The boys still got to go out and play. They still got to win.

SS: In a sense, yes.

Ty Cobb: What sense you mean?

SS: Only that I'm not entirely convinced that all ballplayers play to win every game.

Ty Cobb: You think it was that way in my time? You think they're all like me? That's why I'm Ty Cobb, dammit. They weren't all like me. You didn't see me stuffing my fat ass like Babe Ruth 'fore every game.

SS: I don't think I'd say that Babe Ruth didn't play to win, Mr. Cobb.

Ty Cobb: Bullshit. Lou Gehrig was a ballplayer. Ruth was a walking garbage bin, God rest his soul. All of ours.